{"id":5866,"date":"2020-07-31T16:00:00","date_gmt":"2020-07-31T16:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/aviancetechnologies.com\/blog\/blog\/snapdragon-765g-tested-we-probably-dont-need-premium-android-phones-anymore\/"},"modified":"2020-07-31T16:00:00","modified_gmt":"2020-07-31T16:00:00","slug":"snapdragon-765g-tested-we-probably-dont-need-premium-android-phones-anymore","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aviancetechnologies.com\/blog\/snapdragon-765g-tested-we-probably-dont-need-premium-android-phones-anymore\/","title":{"rendered":"Snapdragon 765G tested: We probably don&#8217;t need premium Android phones anymore"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0\u00a0<br \/>\n[responsivevoice_button rate=&#8221;1\u2033 pitch=&#8221;1.2\u2033 volume=&#8221;0.8\u2033 voice=&#8221;US English Female&#8221; buttontext=&#8221;Story in Audio&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h2>Snapdragon 765G tested: We probably don&#8217;t need premium Android phones anymore<\/h2>\n<p><\/p>\n<div id=\"drr-container\" itemprop=\"articleBody\">\n<p>If you\u2019re spending time poring over Android phone spec sheets when deciding which phone to buy, then you know there are basically two processors to look for: the latest Qualcomm Snapdragon chip\u2014right now, that would be the Snapdragon 865 or slightly faster 865+\u2014and everything else. Smartphone processors move so fast that even the previous year&#8217;s flagship processor\u2019s speeds are old news.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s changed this year. Along with the high-end Snapdragon 865 that powers flagships like Samsung&#8217;s Galaxy S20 and the Snapdragon 865+ for even higher-end gaming phones, Qualcomm is also selling the Snapdragon 765 and 765G chips, which raises the middle tier substantially. While mid-range phones have typically run Snapdragon 6 and 7 Series chips, the 765 is a different animal.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"large \"><a class=\"zoom\" href=\"https:\/\/images.idgesg.net\/images\/article\/2020\/07\/lg-velvet-colors-100852414-orig.jpg\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img border=\"0\" alt=\"lg velvet colors\" width=\"1200\" height=\"800\" data-imageid=\"100852414\" data-license=\"Supplied Art\" data-original=\"https:\/\/images.idgesg.net\/images\/article\/2020\/07\/lg-velvet-colors-100852414-large.jpg\" class=\"lazy\" loading=\"lazy\"\/><\/a> <small class=\"credit\">LG<\/small><figcaption>\n<p>The LG Velvet 5G looks like a premium phone on the outside but isn\u2019t powered by the latest Qualcomm silicon.<\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>For one, it has an integrated 5G modem. For another, it\u2019s significantly cheaper than the 5G-enabled Snapdragon 865, so 765-based phones won\u2019t cost anywhere near the four-figure prices flagship phones command. In fact, the first Sanpdragon 765G phone to launch in the U.S. is the LG Velvet and it costs $599, considerably less than the crop of high-end 5G phones from Samsung and Oneplus that launched earlier in the year.<\/p>\n<p>But how does it measure up to those phones? I recently got my hands on the LG Velvet and ran it through a battery of tests and came away very impressed. While it\u2019s still bested by the Snapdragon 865, as it should be, the gap isn\u2019t nearly as wide as the previous mid-range processor, and it could make a phone like the Pixel 3a feel remarkably fast. Let\u2019s dive in.<\/p>\n<p>First, let\u2019s set a baseline. The predecessor to the Snapdragon 765G is the 730, with a 2.2 GHz Kryo 470 Octa-core CPU. It\u2019s a different sort of chip for a much cheaper class of phone (mostly because it doesn\u2019t have 5G), but it\u2019s roughly similar to the 765\u2019s 2.3 GHz Kryo 475 CPU. I don\u2019t own a phone that uses this chip, but a smattering of tests on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.notebookcheck.net\/Qualcomm-Snapdragon-730-SoC-Benchmarks-and-Specs.427214.0.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">NotebookCheck<\/a> gives a good idea of what to expect:\u00a0<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"body\">Snapdragon 730<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Geekbench 5\u00a0Single:<\/strong> 542<\/li>\n<li><strong>Geekbench 5\u00a0Multi:<\/strong> 1647<\/li>\n<li><strong>Speedometer 2.0:<\/strong> 32.8<\/li>\n<li><strong>PCMark Work 2.0:<\/strong> 7494<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>To start my testing, I turned to the LG V60 with a Snapdragon 865 processor to keep it in the LG family as well as the Galaxy S20 Ultra, which has the same chip but way more RAM (8GB vs 12GB). All phones were updated and restarted, and I ran the same tests as above: Geekbench 5\u2019s CPU tests, PCMark\u2019s Work 2.0 Performance tests, and Browserbench\u2019s Speedometer 2.0 test (over Chrome), which measures the responsiveness of Web applications.<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"body\">LG V60<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Geekbench 5\u00a0Single:<\/strong> 907<\/li>\n<li><strong>Geekbench 5\u00a0Multi:<\/strong> 3332<\/li>\n<li><strong>PCMark Work 2.0:<\/strong> 10432<\/li>\n<li><strong>Speedometer 2.0:<\/strong> 74.1<br \/>\n<figure class=\"large \"><a class=\"zoom\" href=\"https:\/\/images.idgesg.net\/images\/article\/2020\/03\/galaxy-s20-ultra-camera-bump-100834399-orig.jpg\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img border=\"0\" alt=\"galaxy s20 ultra camera bump\" width=\"1200\" height=\"800\" data-imageid=\"100834399\" data-license=\"IDG\" data-original=\"https:\/\/images.idgesg.net\/images\/article\/2020\/03\/galaxy-s20-ultra-camera-bump-100834399-large.jpg\" class=\"lazy\" loading=\"lazy\"\/><\/a> <small class=\"credit\">Christopher Hebert\/IDG<\/small><\/figure>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3 class=\"body\">Galaxy S20 Ultra<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Geekbench 5\u00a0Single:<\/strong> 893<\/li>\n<li><strong>Geekbench 5\u00a0Multi:<\/strong> 3156<\/li>\n<li><strong>PCMark Work 2.0:<\/strong> 12350<\/li>\n<li><strong>Speedometer 2.0:<\/strong> 67.2<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Those are really really good scores, as you should expect from phones that cost this much. Even though the V60 is substantially cheaper than the S20 Ultra ($950 vs $1,400), the Snapdragon 865 chip inside both of them performs better than most Android phones you can buy at any price.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"large \"><a class=\"zoom\" href=\"https:\/\/images.idgesg.net\/images\/article\/2020\/07\/asus-rog-3-back-fan-100852544-orig.jpg\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img border=\"0\" alt=\"asus rog 3 back fan\" width=\"1200\" height=\"800\" data-imageid=\"100852544\" data-license=\"IDG\" data-original=\"https:\/\/images.idgesg.net\/images\/article\/2020\/07\/asus-rog-3-back-fan-100852544-large.jpg\" class=\"lazy\" loading=\"lazy\"\/><\/a> <small class=\"credit\">Adam Patrick Murray\/IDG<\/small><figcaption>\n<p>The Asus ROG Phone 3 has so much power, it comes with a clip-on fan to keep it cool.<\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Next up is the Asus ROG Phone 3, which is the latest decked-out gaming phone with all of the performance bells and whistles, including a slightly faster Snapdragon 865+ processor. I had oddly low results from Speedometer 2.0 with this phone so I\u2019m not including them, but overall, the 865+ is as advertised: a little faster than the standard 865. Asus also has a battery-sucking performance &#8216;X Mode&#8217; that cranks the chip even higher:<\/p>\n<aside class=\"nativo-promo nativo-promo-1 smartphone tablet desktop\" id=\"\"\/>\n<h3 class=\"body\">Asus ROG Phone 3<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Geekbench 5\u00a0Single (Regular):<\/strong> 974\u00a0<\/li>\n<li><strong>Geekbench 5\u00a0Single (X Mode):<\/strong> 983<\/li>\n<li><strong>Geekbench 5\u00a0Multi (Regular):<\/strong> \u00a03321<\/li>\n<li><strong>Geekbench 5\u00a0Multi (X Mode):<\/strong> 3192<\/li>\n<li><strong>PCMark Work 2.0 (Regular):<\/strong> 12415<\/li>\n<li><strong>PCMark Work 2.0 (X Mode):<\/strong> 14538<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Finally, I grabbed two of last year\u2019s flagships, the Galaxy S10+ and Pixel 4 XL to test the older Snapdragon 855.<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"body\">Pixel 4 XL<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Geekbench 5\u00a0Single:<\/strong> 635<\/li>\n<li><strong>Geekbench 5\u00a0Multi:<\/strong> 2529<\/li>\n<li><strong>PCMark Work 2.0:<\/strong> 10717<\/li>\n<li><strong>Speedometer 2.0:<\/strong> 26.7<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<figure class=\"large \"><a class=\"zoom\" href=\"https:\/\/images.idgesg.net\/images\/article\/2019\/03\/s10-main-100790334-orig.jpg\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img border=\"0\" alt=\"s10 main\" width=\"1200\" height=\"800\" data-imageid=\"100790334\" data-license=\"IDG\" data-original=\"https:\/\/images.idgesg.net\/images\/article\/2019\/03\/s10-main-100790334-large.jpg\" class=\"lazy\" loading=\"lazy\"\/><\/a> <small class=\"credit\">Michael Simon\/IDG<\/small><\/figure>\n<h3 class=\"body\">Galaxy S10+<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Geekbench 5\u00a0Single:<\/strong> 741<\/li>\n<li><strong>Geekbench 5 Multi:<\/strong> 2712<\/li>\n<li><strong>PCMark Work 2.0:<\/strong> 9616<\/li>\n<li><strong>Speedometer 2.0:<\/strong> 26.8<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>To round things out, I ran the Galaxy S9 with the Snapdragon 845 through the same tests:<\/p>\n<h3 class=\"body\">Galaxy S9<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Geekbench\u00a0Single:<\/strong> 415<\/li>\n<li><strong>Geekbench 5\u00a0Multi:<\/strong> 1912<\/li>\n<li><strong>PCMark Work 2.0:<\/strong> 8293<\/li>\n<li><strong>Speedometer 2.0:<\/strong> 25.2<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>I expected the Snapdragon 765G in the LG Velvet to be roughly similar to the Snapdragon 730, but the 765G is actually a good deal quicker and not all that far off from the 855. It particularly struggled with the PCMark Work 2.0 score, but that could have more to do with LG than the chip itself since the V60 also considerably trails the Galaxy S20 Ultra in that test.<\/p>\n<p>I was most impressed with the Speedometer score. Android phones have long lagged Apple\u2019s iPhones with its web performance scores\u2014the iPhone SE, for example, clocked a 166 in Speedometer 2.0\u2014but the Velvet shows impressive gains for a mid-range chip. That\u2019s practically double the scores I got with the Snapdragon 845 and 855, Qualcomm&#8217;s previous two flagships.<\/p>\n<aside class=\"nativo-promo nativo-promo-2 tablet desktop smartphone\" id=\"\"\/>\n<h3 class=\"body\">LG Velvet<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Geekbench 5\u00a0Single:<\/strong> 610<\/li>\n<li><strong>Geekbench 5\u00a0Multi:<\/strong> 1944<\/li>\n<li><strong>PCMark Work 2.0:<\/strong> 7734<\/li>\n<li><strong>Speedometer 2.0:<\/strong> 51.5<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<figure class=\"large \"><a class=\"zoom\" href=\"https:\/\/images.idgesg.net\/images\/article\/2020\/07\/snapdragon-765-geekbench-100852715-orig.jpg\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img border=\"0\" alt=\"snapdragon 765 geekbench\" width=\"1200\" height=\"725\" data-imageid=\"100852715\" data-license=\"IDG\" data-original=\"https:\/\/images.idgesg.net\/images\/article\/2020\/07\/snapdragon-765-geekbench-100852715-large.jpg\" class=\"lazy\" loading=\"lazy\"\/><\/a> <small class=\"credit\">IDG<\/small><\/figure>\n<p>That\u2019s an all-around improvement over the Snapdragon 730 and 845, and not far off the 855, which is still being sold in thousand-dollar phones. Yes, the 765G is slower than the 865 in benchmarks, as it should be, but when you consider the price difference between the Velvet and other 5G phones such as the Galaxy S20 Ultra and the OnePlus 8, the Snapdragon 765G processor should bring some exciting releases later this year at even more attractive price points. (Though to be fair, LG\u2019s phones are at the mercy of carriers, which tend to inflate MSRPs to make discounts look more enticing.) Battery life will need to be tested as well, but initial impressions are strong.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"large \"><a class=\"zoom\" href=\"https:\/\/images.idgesg.net\/images\/article\/2020\/07\/snapdragon-765-speedometer-100852718-orig.jpg\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img border=\"0\" alt=\"snapdragon 765 speedometer\" width=\"1200\" height=\"800\" data-imageid=\"100852718\" data-license=\"IDG\" data-original=\"https:\/\/images.idgesg.net\/images\/article\/2020\/07\/snapdragon-765-speedometer-100852718-large.jpg\" class=\"lazy\" loading=\"lazy\"\/><\/a> <small class=\"credit\">IDG<\/small><\/figure>\n<p>For example, the recently launched OnePlus Nord, which isn\u2019t releasing in the U.S., is priced at 399 Euros or around $450 in U.S. dollars. That\u2019s even cheaper than the Velvet and a tremendous value for a 5G handset. And when you factor in the speeds it can deliver, OnePlus\u2019s premium Android phones\u2014which cost twice as much\u2014don\u2019t seem quite so premium anymore. I\u2019ve only been using the Velvet for a few days, but nothing about it feels slow or laggy, and it\u2019s nearly impossible to tell the difference between it and the V60 in day-to-day usage.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"large \"><a class=\"zoom\" href=\"https:\/\/images.idgesg.net\/images\/article\/2020\/07\/snapdragon-765-pcmark-100852719-orig.jpg\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img border=\"0\" alt=\"snapdragon 765 pcmark\" width=\"1200\" height=\"792\" data-imageid=\"100852719\" data-license=\"IDG\" data-original=\"https:\/\/images.idgesg.net\/images\/article\/2020\/07\/snapdragon-765-pcmark-100852719-large.jpg\" class=\"lazy\" loading=\"lazy\"\/><\/a> <small class=\"credit\">IDG<\/small><\/figure>\n<p>There\u2019s even talk that Google might be using the Snapdragon 765 or 765G in the upcoming Pixel 5 instead of the 865, which makes a lot of sense to me. Google has always had a hard time competing with the Galaxies and iPhones of the world, but with a lower price thanks to the 765 processor, that could change. The Snapdragon 765 opens up a world of opportunity for Android OEMs and consumers alike and for the first time in a while, the future of phones that aren\u2019t running the most powerful Qualcomm chips is very promising.<\/p>\n<p>Mid-range cameras and displays have been catching up to their premium counterparts for years, and now the 765 looks to bring performance closer to the higher-end of Android as well.\u00a0Premium phone prices might not be falling anytime soon, but with the Snapdragon 765, we might not actually need to buy them anymore.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><strong>Update 7\/31:<\/strong> <em>This article has been updated to fix a typo in the URL and to add clarification throughout.<\/em><\/p>\n<div class=\"end-note\">\n<p>\t\t<!-- blx4 #2008 blox4.html  --><\/p>\n<div id=\"\" class=\"blx blxParticleendnote blxM2008  blox4_html  blxC24068\">Note: When you purchase something after clicking links in our articles, we may earn a small commission. 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