{"id":3298,"date":"2020-05-19T15:58:00","date_gmt":"2020-05-19T15:58:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/aviancetechnologies.com\/blog\/blog\/amd-pivots-b450-x470-motherboards-will-support-ryzen-4000-after-all\/"},"modified":"2020-05-19T15:58:00","modified_gmt":"2020-05-19T15:58:00","slug":"amd-pivots-b450-x470-motherboards-will-support-ryzen-4000-after-all","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/aviancetechnologies.com\/blog\/amd-pivots-b450-x470-motherboards-will-support-ryzen-4000-after-all\/","title":{"rendered":"AMD pivots: B450, X470 motherboards will support Ryzen 4000 after all"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0\u00a0<br \/>\n[responsivevoice_button rate=&#8221;1\u2033 pitch=&#8221;1.2\u2033 volume=&#8221;0.8\u2033 voice=&#8221;US English Female&#8221; buttontext=&#8221;Story in Audio&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h2>AMD pivots: B450, X470 motherboards will support Ryzen 4000 after all<\/h2>\n<p><\/p>\n<div id=\"drr-container\" itemprop=\"articleBody\">\n<p>Surprise! A mere week after announcing that its B450 and X470 motherboards won\u2019t support future generations of Ryzen processors, AMD has had a change of heart regarding socket AM4 compatibility. Huzzah! Next-gen Ryzen processors will now support both 400-series and 500-series AM4 motherboards, though there are many caveats involved.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOver the past week, we closely reviewed your feedback on that news: we watched every video, read every comment and saw every Tweet,\u201d AMD said in a release, via <a href=\"https:\/\/www.anandtech.com\/show\/15807\/amd-to-support-zen-3-and-ryzen-4000-cpus-on-b450-and-x470-motherboards\" rel=\"nofollow\">Anandtech<\/a>. \u201cWe hear that many of you hoped a longer upgrade path. We hear your hope that AMD B450 and X470 chipsets would carry you into the \u2018Zen 3\u2019 era\u2026As the team weighed your feedback against the technical challenges we face, we decided to change course.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>AMD\u2019s compatibility announcement spurred anger and shock across the Internet. Even before Ryzen launched, AMD touted a long-term upgrade path via its AM4 socket. Last week\u2019s announcement revealed that future \u201cZen 3\u201d chips will indeed continue to support the AM4 socket but drop compatibility with older motherboard <em>chipsets<\/em>. That kept true to the letter of AMD\u2019s AM4 upgrade promise yet tossed the spirit in the garbage bin. We aired our grievances in the most recent Full Nerd podcast, which you can see starting at about the 31-minute mark in the video below.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"large\">\n<div class=\"embed-wrapper\">\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/3HutfKbmPJc\" width=\"1193\" height=\"671\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\" data-mce-fragment=\"1\"> <\/iframe><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p>Don\u2019t be mistaken: There are some very real technical limitations that require dumping support for older CPUs, as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=T5X-8vZtml8\" rel=\"nofollow\">Gamers Nexus admirably covered<\/a>. But AMD\u2019s marketing department spent years mocking Intel for its short-lived socket (<em>not<\/em> chipset) support, and worse, only just rolled out B550 motherboards.<\/p>\n<aside class=\"emo emo-sb\">\n<h6 class=\"nav-title\">The best gaming CPU for most people<\/h6>\n<div class=\"product-details\">\n<figure class=\"productFigure\"><span><img border=\"0\" data-productid=\"1443174\" data-original=\"https:\/\/images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com\/images\/I\/41PHJMoCeFL.jpg\" class=\"lazy\" loading=\"lazy\"\/><\/span><span class=\"product-name\" data-productid=\"1443174\">AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 6-Core, 12-Thread CPU<\/span><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/aside>\n<p>If you bought a kick-ass, affordable AMD 3000-series Ryzen 3 or Ryzen 5 processor since last August and didn\u2019t want to spend more on your motherboard than you did for your chip, B450 was the only modern option. X570 costs too much, and B550 is only rolling out now. AMD and its partners pitched its 400-series motherboards as a viable alternative to newer 500-series boards, as the only notable 500-series difference is support for the cutting-edge PCI 4.0 technology. People who listened and opted to get a B450 or X470 board instead suddenly found themselves stranded on a dead platform without warning\u2014until today\u2019s reversal. Kudos to AMD for listening to the (valid) feedback of its community.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"large \"><a class=\"zoom\" href=\"https:\/\/images.idgesg.net\/images\/article\/2020\/04\/ryzen-pcie-4-ssd-100839267-orig.jpg\" rel=\"nofollow\"><img border=\"0\" alt=\"ryzen pcie 4 ssd\" width=\"1200\" height=\"676\" data-imageid=\"100839267\" data-license=\"IDG\" data-original=\"https:\/\/images.idgesg.net\/images\/article\/2020\/04\/ryzen-pcie-4-ssd-100839267-large.jpg\" class=\"lazy\" loading=\"lazy\"\/><\/a> <small class=\"credit\">Gordon Mah Ung\/IDG<\/small><figcaption>\n<p>B450 and X570 motherboards will support next-gen Ryzen chips, but not PCIe 4.0 SSDs like Corsair\u2019s Force MP600. You need a B550 or X570 board for that.<\/p>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>AMD\u2019s compromise is just that: a compromise. It has to be, given the technical limitations that spurred the original plans to cut backward compatibility. The Zen 3 support for B450 and X470 motherboards won\u2019t be as seamless as prior upgrades, which will probably limit it to enthusiasts alone. But because this controversy pretty much only affects enthusiasts looking to upgrade their existing PCs\u2014a <em>very<\/em> small subset of users\u2014it\u2019s a welcome move from AMD.<\/p>\n<p>Rather than trying to break down the complicated process, here\u2019s what AMD says to expect:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p><em>As the team weighed your feedback against the technical challenges we face, we decided to change course. As a result, we will enable an upgrade path for B450 and X470 customers that adds support for next-gen AMD Ryzen Processors with the \u201cZen 3\u201d architecture.\u00a0 This decision is very fresh, but here is a first look at how the upgrade path is expected to work for customers of these motherboards.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>1)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 We will develop and enable our motherboard partners with the code to support \u201cZen 3\u201d-based processors in select beta BIOSes for AMD B450 and X470 motherboards.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>2)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 These optional BIOS updates will disable support for many existing AMD Ryzen\u2122 Desktop Processor models to make the necessary ROM space available.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>3)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 The select beta BIOSes will enable a one-way upgrade path for AMD Ryzen Processors with \u201cZen 3,\u201d coming later this year. Flashing back to an older BIOS version will not be supported.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>4)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 To reduce the potential for confusion, our intent is to offer BIOS download only to verified customers of 400 Series motherboards who have purchased a new desktop processor with \u201cZen 3\u201d inside. This will help us ensure that customers have a bootable processor on-hand after the BIOS flash, minimizing the risk a user could get caught in a no-boot situation.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>5)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Timing and availability of the BIOS updates will vary and may not immediately coincide with the availability of the first \u201cZen 3\u201d-based processors.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>6)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 This is the final pathway AMD can enable for 400 Series motherboards to add new CPU support. CPU releases beyond \u201cZen 3\u201d will require a newer motherboard.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>7)\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 AMD continues to recommend that customers choose an AMD 500 Series motherboard for the best performance and features with our new CPUs.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>There are still many details to iron out, but we\u2019ve already started the necessary planning. As we get closer to the launch of this upgrade path, you should expect another blog just like this to provide the remaining details and a walkthrough of the specific process.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Again: Props to AMD for working to address the feedback about it original plan. This comes at a cost to the company and its partners, but it\u2019s well worth it. Ryzen\u2019s starting to make a big impression with enthusiasts, finally snatching Intel\u2019s long-held desktop computing crown. Suddenly stranding 400-series motherboard owners without warning was a massive miscue.<\/p>\n<p>Original 300-series motherboards that launched with the first-generation Ryzen chips will still fall by the wayside, however. I own one. Considering that it started out supporting the eight-core Ryzen 7 1800X and can be upgraded all the way to the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pcworld.com\/article\/3453320\/amd-ryzen-9-3950x-review.html\">monstrous 16-core Ryzen 7 3950X with much higher IPC and clock speeds, I ain\u2019t even mad.<\/p>\n<div class=\"end-note\">\n<p>\t\t<!-- blx4 #2008 blox4.html  --><\/p>\n<div id=\"\" class=\"blx blxParticleendnote blxM2008  blox4_html  blxC24068\">Note: When you purchase something after clicking links in our articles, we may earn a small commission. 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